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	<title>Comments on: Mikegyver Revisited: iGo vs Kensington MacBook 12v Power</title>
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		<title>By: Keeth</title>
		<link>http://www.technomadia.com/2009/07/mikegyver-revisited-igo-macbook-12v-power/comment-page-1/#comment-17582</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris,

I&#039;ve been using the Mikegyver iGo with my Macbook Pro off-the-grid for a few weeks now and it works great.

Yeah, one of the biggest annoyances so far is the low-quality 12V/automotive connectors out there, they are often too thin, or don&#039;t make good connections, and often come with very low-amp fuses.  Would be nice to find a source of really good quality 12V sockets and splitters.

But it&#039;s great running direct off 12V and avoiding the inverter entirely.  I use the &quot;Doc Wattson&quot; RV/Marine power meter too and it&#039;s really handy: tells me at a glance how much power I am drawing and the voltage level of the batteries:

http://www.rc-electronics-usa.com/ammeters/rv-battery-monitor.html

Do you know of any good &#039;off-the-grid&#039; forums out there?  I appreciate your blog sharing this info, would be nice to have some kind of discussion forum for these kinds of setups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using the Mikegyver iGo with my Macbook Pro off-the-grid for a few weeks now and it works great.</p>
<p>Yeah, one of the biggest annoyances so far is the low-quality 12V/automotive connectors out there, they are often too thin, or don&#8217;t make good connections, and often come with very low-amp fuses.  Would be nice to find a source of really good quality 12V sockets and splitters.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s great running direct off 12V and avoiding the inverter entirely.  I use the &#8220;Doc Wattson&#8221; RV/Marine power meter too and it&#8217;s really handy: tells me at a glance how much power I am drawing and the voltage level of the batteries:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rc-electronics-usa.com/ammeters/rv-battery-monitor.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rc-electronics-usa.com/ammeters/rv-battery-monitor.html</a></p>
<p>Do you know of any good &#8216;off-the-grid&#8217; forums out there?  I appreciate your blog sharing this info, would be nice to have some kind of discussion forum for these kinds of setups.<br />
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		<title>By: Chris Dunphy</title>
		<link>http://www.technomadia.com/2009/07/mikegyver-revisited-igo-macbook-12v-power/comment-page-1/#comment-17580</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Dunphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeth --

One extra tip regarding dealing with a Low Voltage Cutoff...  

Often because the wire gauge heading to most 12v jacks is so narrow, a lot of the observed voltage drop is caused by the wire heating up.  If you use thick wires and hook the inverter directly to a battery, it will take a lot longer to reach the cutoff point and trigger the annoying beeping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeth &#8211;</p>
<p>One extra tip regarding dealing with a Low Voltage Cutoff&#8230;  </p>
<p>Often because the wire gauge heading to most 12v jacks is so narrow, a lot of the observed voltage drop is caused by the wire heating up.  If you use thick wires and hook the inverter directly to a battery, it will take a lot longer to reach the cutoff point and trigger the annoying beeping.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeth</title>
		<link>http://www.technomadia.com/2009/07/mikegyver-revisited-igo-macbook-12v-power/comment-page-1/#comment-10290</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review!  I am looking for a 12V adapter for off-the-grid living and did not know about the low-voltage cutoff.  I&#039;ve experienced the same thing with inverters that cut off or start beeping, when you know that the batteries aren&#039;t that low.  Phew.  That saved me some trouble, thanks.  Would love to hear a HyperMac Car Charger review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review!  I am looking for a 12V adapter for off-the-grid living and did not know about the low-voltage cutoff.  I&#8217;ve experienced the same thing with inverters that cut off or start beeping, when you know that the batteries aren&#8217;t that low.  Phew.  That saved me some trouble, thanks.  Would love to hear a HyperMac Car Charger review.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Bowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Bowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris &amp; Cherie,
What a great site – I have learned a lot and will continue to.
I’m hoping you will be able to review the HyperMac Car Charger soon as I am about to take a Macbook on the road.
Thanks for what you do,
Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &amp; Cherie,<br />
What a great site – I have learned a lot and will continue to.<br />
I’m hoping you will be able to review the HyperMac Car Charger soon as I am about to take a Macbook on the road.<br />
Thanks for what you do,<br />
Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dunphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Dunphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep - airlines actually put out a higher voltage than cars do.  Apple&#039;s adaptor doesn&#039;t contain any sort of fancy electronics to do DC-to-DC conversion, it just passes the power through and the laptop can run off that lower voltage, but not charge.   Car voltage on the other hand is too low to even power a MacBook.

Apple&#039;s adaptor is really a waste, and should be avoided.

The MikeGyver and HyperMac solutions are MUCH better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; airlines actually put out a higher voltage than cars do.  Apple&#8217;s adaptor doesn&#8217;t contain any sort of fancy electronics to do DC-to-DC conversion, it just passes the power through and the laptop can run off that lower voltage, but not charge.   Car voltage on the other hand is too low to even power a MacBook.</p>
<p>Apple&#8217;s adaptor is really a waste, and should be avoided.</p>
<p>The MikeGyver and HyperMac solutions are MUCH better.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Cashmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Cashmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use this https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/primatepower/minigorilla/   when I&#039;m on the road with the bike - the mini gorilla also powers pretty much everything else I carry with me. However - I did think I could just buy this (http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB441Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&amp;mco=MjE0ODI2OQ) - Apple Magsafe Airplane adaptor - which has a look&#039;a&#039;like 12v car socket on it.... but doesn&#039;t actually work with the 12v car socket.... that was a waste of cash.

m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use this <a href="https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/primatepower/minigorilla/" rel="nofollow">https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/primatepower/minigorilla/</a>   when I&#8217;m on the road with the bike &#8211; the mini gorilla also powers pretty much everything else I carry with me. However &#8211; I did think I could just buy this (<a href="http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB441Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&amp;mco=MjE0ODI2OQ" rel="nofollow">http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB441Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&amp;mco=MjE0ODI2OQ</a>) &#8211; Apple Magsafe Airplane adaptor &#8211; which has a look&#8217;a'like 12v car socket on it&#8230;. but doesn&#8217;t actually work with the 12v car socket&#8230;. that was a waste of cash.</p>
<p>m</p>
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		<title>By: Mikegyver.com</title>
		<link>http://www.technomadia.com/2009/07/mikegyver-revisited-igo-macbook-12v-power/comment-page-1/#comment-1838</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikegyver.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Sorry about that, we&#039;re planning on updating our website with much more details and even perhaps a video on the plus/neg of each product.

But to your question, yes, the iGo everywhereMAX and iGo 130w AC/DC is the same except for the new size.  The dims are actually the same as the Kensington except that it is still a bit thicker.

Thanks,
Mike
mikegyver.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Sorry about that, we&#8217;re planning on updating our website with much more details and even perhaps a video on the plus/neg of each product.</p>
<p>But to your question, yes, the iGo everywhereMAX and iGo 130w AC/DC is the same except for the new size.  The dims are actually the same as the Kensington except that it is still a bit thicker.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Mike<br />
mikegyver.com</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dunphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Dunphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mike - 

Sorry for the confusion - I&#039;ll update this post to fix the iGo details and to make clear this was an Everywhere130 and NOT an EverywhereMAX we were evaluating.  

You only offer one iGo model on your site, and the way you describe the difference with the Kensington is to say: &quot;the Kensington is lighter and slimmer&quot; without giving more details.  Even the (horrible to navigate) iGo website only mentions the existence of the EverywhereMAX.  I didn&#039;t realize until now that the Everywhere130 was actually a different / older product.
  
Is the EverywhereMAX and Everywhere130 identical in every way other than size?

  - Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike &#8211; </p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion &#8211; I&#8217;ll update this post to fix the iGo details and to make clear this was an Everywhere130 and NOT an EverywhereMAX we were evaluating.  </p>
<p>You only offer one iGo model on your site, and the way you describe the difference with the Kensington is to say: &#8220;the Kensington is lighter and slimmer&#8221; without giving more details.  Even the (horrible to navigate) iGo website only mentions the existence of the EverywhereMAX.  I didn&#8217;t realize until now that the Everywhere130 was actually a different / older product.</p>
<p>Is the EverywhereMAX and Everywhere130 identical in every way other than size?</p>
<p>  &#8211; Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Mikegyver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikegyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

small minor comment. We sent you the iGo 130w ac/dc adapter.   But the iGo everywhere max is almost the same as the 130w except the it is almost as small as the Kensington.  So we we debating if we should switch favorites now.  Regardless our adapter can be power from any source and not just DC. 

Mikegyver.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>small minor comment. We sent you the iGo 130w ac/dc adapter.   But the iGo everywhere max is almost the same as the 130w except the it is almost as small as the Kensington.  So we we debating if we should switch favorites now.  Regardless our adapter can be power from any source and not just DC. </p>
<p>Mikegyver.com</p>
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